January 24th, 2012

So Mitt Romney complains that the US Navy has fewer ships than it did in 1917 — true, but utterly irrelevant and deceptive.

Did you know that we have a weaker cavalry than we did in 1917, too?  I’m shocked.

17 Responses to “Mitt Romney Likes to Play with Toy Soldiers and Sailors”

  1. JerryB says:

    Right wingers love to stand behind our troops. Way behind.

  2. Anomalous says:

    Chicken Hawks will be chicken hawks.

  3. Donald A. Coffin says:

    Hey, at least we have a larger air force.

    • But it has fewer zeppelins than in 1925!

      • NCG says:

        Speaking of zeppelins — hey, Keith, have you seen “Hell’s Angels?” I really really loved it. I thought it was beautiful. And I’d never heard of it, and only went because it was part of a Jean Harlow series (she’s in for about 10 minutes). Am I high, or is it a really hauntingly poetic movie? Fiercely anti-war, as well.

  4. Warren Terra says:

    This whole line of argument has been wholly absurd on many levels:
    1) As noted, the US Navy of 1917 is not comparable to the US Navy of 2011 qualitatively. I don’t know about the total manpower or tonnage, but how much of the 1917 fleet would you balance against a modern nuclear-powered 1,000 foot 100,000 ton aircraft carrier carrying 4,500 sailors and marines (the easy comparison I know offhand, from reading about the Dardanelles campaign a decade or two ago, is that a British WWI battleship carried 600 men)? And what scale would you use? Certainly, a single 2011 aircraft carrier is far more of a force than our entire navy in 1917. And a single missile sub is more of a strategic threat than the entire 1917 navy.
    2) 1917 is not comparable to 2011: then, the British had the largest and most powerful navy in the world; I don’t know offhand whether we were second, third, fourth, or even fifth. Now, our navy is equal in tonnage to the next thirteen navies combined.
    3) Arguably, ours is not only the overwhelmingly dominant navy, it’s the only navy, in the sense of a strategically useful global navy that people a generation or two ago would recognize. We have the only large aircraft carriers, with our allies Britain and France operating smaller ones. China and India are developing one apiece; we have eleven. Basically, everyone else’s navy is there to provide coastal defense and to regulate and/or harass commerce (submarines), and to provide strategic deterrence (missile subs).
    4) There’s a real question about whether our navy is even useful in an age of wave-skimming cruise missiles, silent submarines, and suicide bombers in small, fast boats. If Iran closes the straits of Hormuz, they’ll do it using land-based missiles, submarines, and tiny speedboats, not using naval tonnage. And we’ll fight it with planes flown out of Qatar as much as we will by exposing incalculably expensive aircraft carriers to risk.

  5. Ed Whitney says:

    If you shudder at the state of our cavalry today, you don’t even want to think of how few miles of telegraph wire our military has at its disposal today compared with what it had when Benjamin Harrison was in the White House! Barack Obama’s indifference to these deficiencies ought to get him impeached.

    • Warren Terra says:

      And our once-proud Semaphore-based early warning network is in a shocking state, leaving us utterly defenseless.

    • NCG says:

      Let’s not go too far though. I think we should keep some of that manual stuff around. Aren’t we having a solar flare or what-all? I like to have backup.

  6. merl says:

    I think Ft Hood had one troop of cavalry when my dad was stationed there. I was a cavalry base as in helicopters and armor.

  7. BruceJ says:

    Mr. President! We must not allow a collier gap!

    (and as a point of reality, we have a vastly more powerful cavalry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1st_Cavalry_Division_(United_States)

    • Warren Terra says:

      Pshaw. How many horses can they muster?

      Don’t forget, our old enemy Britain - against whom we’ve fought three wars (if you count The Pig War, casualties: one pig) still has the descendents of The Horse Guard. There is a Horse Gap.

      • hdware says:

        I have a friend who was in the Life Guards-yeah, those guys on horse, with the shiny stuff-and if he is a representative example of the regiment, we’d be well advised to not make jokes about them. They’re tough, and those horses are mighty effective in crowds. Joint Chiefs: Ignore Captain Jinks’s outfit at your peril!

        And while we’re at it, might want to shop around for some vessels that can fire a proper broadside. The best we can muster is Constitution, 44 guns-although we can count ourselves lucky compared to the Royal Navy, whose only remaining ship of the line isn’t going _anywhere_.

  8. Cranky Observer says:

    IMHO there is a good argument to be made that the US should maintain a strong navy (possibly larger than today’s, in terms of being able to actually fight pirates off the Horn of Africa and similar missions) and massively cut its Army and overseas bases.

    I doubt, however, that Mr. Romney is making that argument.

    Cranky

    • Ed Whitney says:

      But how can we maintain a strong navy when it doesn’t even have as many coal shovels as it had during the Great War?

  9. Michael O'Hare says:

    The average number of wings per military aircraft has fallen by half since 1917. Skills are a disgrace: find me a single army private who can wind puttees respectably.

  10. Perspecticus says:

    I think the true crime is that people fail to appreciate how many Obama-created bureaucratic hoops a sodier has to jump through in order to get one, well-crafted gladius these days.

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